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theMusicMan
24th February 2008, 08:39 PM
Though I don't post there anymore, TalkPhotography remains a very informative forum for general photography. However, as I read through some posts this evening I spotted this one and it reminded me of one of the reasons why I decided not to post there any further, and of one of the reasons why a general photography forum is prone to bouts of, well... errrm, just daftness... :)

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=50314

Ho hum... :D

angelpaaul
24th February 2008, 08:56 PM
What the ..:confused:

I'll just stick with my E3 + 12-60 and a lightweight tripod if thats alright with you.

Paul

PeterD
24th February 2008, 10:59 PM
John,

Perhaps you might remind him he has not listed a large wheeled Samsonite Case with security locks.:rolleyes: Oh what about a small shoulder bags for the Sandwiches and flask;). These should be under accessories.

PeterD

Zuiko
25th February 2008, 12:12 AM
Wow,

They have some deep, meaningful discussions on that site, don't they? Needless to say, I won't be going back.

The sad thing is that several replies said how useful it was! Even sadder, some beginners may actually take that advice, despite the author apparently not having a clue himself!

Zuiko

theMusicMan
25th February 2008, 07:34 AM
The sad thing is that several replies said how useful it was! Even sadder, some beginners may actually take that advice, despite the author apparently not having a clue himself!

Zuiko
I agree totally, and it's what I mentioned, several times, i.e. that new users are not provided with adequate information sufficient for them to make an informed decision. More often that not I received replies with daft smilies such as "I love Canon", or "Nikon Rules". Then they'd each start having a go at each other... :)

This is why I firmly believe once you've decided which system/manufacturer you are going to use, it's better to remain on sites such as e-group or FTU.

E-P1 fan
25th February 2008, 07:37 AM
It's only worth a net acronym.

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D

HughofBardfield
25th February 2008, 12:19 PM
Sums up nicely one of the several reasons why forums sometimes really hack me off...

theMusicMan
25th February 2008, 12:35 PM
Sums up nicely one of the several reasons why forums sometimes really hack me off...Hi Hugh

Yes you're right they do on times don't they...? and I know exactly what you mean, but it is often quite difficult to interpret the written word as opposed to the spoken word and it is this that often causes confusion, conflict and tempers to sometimes flare.

'Fanboy' mentality is also a major player in this arena; take the classic (and never ending) Mac vs PC debate as a prime example. Whenever I offer advice, I always try to be impartial, offering what I consider the best practical advice as I am able to offer. When on cross format camera/photography forums I have not always observed this trait from users/fans of other camera systems... and especially when Olympus systems and cameras are in the frame - which is such a shame.

There's absolutely a place for such forums of course, and all-in-all they do provide a fabulous resource for those new to photography and perhaps those looking to find out more about DSLR's etc, but they do tend to attract this fanboy'ism, cliquiness [sp], and adoration/idolisation of certain members/people that seems to go way be beyond what many consider to be reasonable. I still visit such sites, and find them useful for any research I am after, but usually this is nothing I cannot obtain from here or similar.

HughofBardfield
25th February 2008, 12:46 PM
John, you are so right.

In my experience, almost all of these choices really come down to what is right for you, and for your needs, at a point in time. Different needs = different choices.

One of the reasons I like this forum is that the active members do not go instantly for the jugular if they see something they disagree with, but are prepared to exchange views. So much of communication is lost when reduced to words on a screen, that I think more tolerance and latitude is required.

It saddens me on other forums when things go from a standing start to pistols at dawn in a single post.

photo_owl
25th February 2008, 01:07 PM
however it happened, and for whatever reason, the 'table' would be better served by highlighting the needs rather than simply jumping that stage and delivering solutions.

that way everyone would have a chance to learn what constitutes (for example) a good sports camera and appropriate lenses, and compare solutions now, and into the future.

a couple of examples would be constructive

however, the flaw in this is that camera wise I can see so few 'specialist' features it would look a little 'thin'!

theMusicMan
25th February 2008, 01:47 PM
however it happened, and for whatever reason, the 'table' would be better served by highlighting the needs rather than simply jumping that stage and delivering solutions.

that way everyone would have a chance to learn what constitutes (for example) a good sports camera and appropriate lenses, and compare solutions now, and into the future.

a couple of examples would be constructive

however, the flaw in this is that camera wise I can see so few 'specialist' features it would look a little 'thin'!Hmmmm... you've lost me there photo_owl...!! Can you elaborate please. Ta.

photo_owl
28th February 2008, 05:18 PM
sorry for the delay in responding - been away

what I was trying to say was that instead of delivering a table of best cameras for particular areas (sports/landscape/wildlife etc) it would be much more helpful if the table was of the features needed by cameras and bodies in those areas, with possibly a couple of examples.

however I then suggested that with the exception of fps for sports I struggle to see what different features are actually needed in the areas listed! Add close-ups and live view springs to mind - but on the bodies front it's a bit thin. You could argue for zillions of MP for landscape - but again you could also argure for a small light camera, good lens and tripod + software instead.

Duncan